What did you do in your Land Rover today?

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Re: What did you do in your Land Rover today?
Reply #75 - Aug 08, 2020 - 08:47
I think originally they were Low  band  ( Circa 86mhz) AM  but not 100% sure .
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Reply #76 - Aug 08, 2020 - 10:59
I think originally they were Low  band  ( Circa 86mhz) AM  but not 100% sure .
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Re: What did you do in your Land Rover today?
Reply #77 - Aug 08, 2020 - 11:00
Second weekend of crow and magpie season.  Yuey purring like a kitten across the fields.  22 August fluid replacement plus grill party planned with my favorite Land Rover mechanic https://www.miwawe.de and https://drive.google.com/file/d/1fePa-oHx5WDHAkQUtfxx31udZYiruMnn/view .


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Re: What did you do in your Land Rover today?
Reply #78 - Aug 08, 2020 - 12:07
Took the B****y gearbox out.

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Re: What did you do in your Land Rover today?
Reply #79 - Aug 11, 2020 - 14:40
FInally got 2 dry days in succession and got the hay baled and in. Eldest grandson did al the hard work stacking but he did get to drive the Land Rover in compensation. And a few quid. 

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Reply #80 - Aug 11, 2020 - 19:17
Popped up to Embsay railway station near Skipton - its the other end of this line where we hold the Bolton Abbey meet in April - normally, it was cancelled this year due to covid. The locomotive in the background is a Hunslet Austerity - built in Leeds in 1953. My Series One dates from 1957 so there are only 4 years between them!
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Re: What did you do in your Land Rover today?
Reply #81 - Aug 11, 2020 - 19:46
spent two hours trying to get bolts back in dynamo to engine with spacers and washers and get belt back on given up too hot.
hope you had a great drive hoping to be out in mine tomorrow evening

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Re: What did you do in your Land Rover today?
Reply #82 - Aug 11, 2020 - 22:27
Took Gracie on a trial in the wilds of Hertfordshire!
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Re: What did you do in your Land Rover today?
Reply #83 - Aug 16, 2020 - 12:54
Clearing barbed wire fencing together with big brother defender. Original heavy duty version.

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Re: What did you do in your Land Rover today?
Reply #84 - Aug 16, 2020 - 17:11
Picked and loaded this years apple harvest(and wasps😡) ready to be taken for juicing tomorrow.
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Re: What did you do in your Land Rover today?
Reply #85 - Aug 16, 2020 - 18:04
Pulled down a recalcitrant deadfall branch off the wood shed, now that the ponies are out of the paddock - what could possibly go wrong?


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Re: What did you do in your Land Rover today?
Reply #86 - Aug 16, 2020 - 20:19
Go on then show us. What went wrong?

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Reply #87 - Aug 16, 2020 - 20:43
Picked and loaded this years apple harvest(and wasps😡) ready to be taken for juicing tomorrow.


  That’s not all from your back garden is it ?


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Reply #88 - Aug 16, 2020 - 21:11
‘Tis indeed Nick, all from one tree😊
Alas they are eaters not cider apples so just go into juice for all the family not cider for Tom+ I 😆

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Re: What did you do in your Land Rover today?
Reply #89 - Aug 17, 2020 - 16:40
Picked and loaded this years apple harvest(and wasps) ready to be taken for juicing tomorrow.
You had much better (and earlier) apples than we in Germany this year ... pears and mirabellen, but we think a freeze took off the blossoms.  These look great!


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Re: What did you do in your Land Rover today?
Reply #90 - Aug 17, 2020 - 16:45
Pulled down a recalcitrant deadfall branch off the wood shed, now that the ponies are out of the paddock - what could possibly go wrong?


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If I had a pound for every "recalcitrant deadfall branch" (love that term :-) with which I've had to deal this year, I could retire!  We just lost another willow in a recent storm, which I'm letting the goats and horses nibble off before removing.


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Reply #91 - Aug 18, 2020 - 13:06
Just been to collect my apple juice, 115 bottles, not bad😊
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Reply #92 - Aug 18, 2020 - 18:07
Second trip to the recycling facility today...

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Reply #93 - Aug 23, 2020 - 10:54
Successful day replacing all the fluids in the '53 Series I 80".  Before we started, as I suspected my ear was correct ... it turned out cylinder two was fouled and not firing.  Herr Fasold https://www.facebook.com/miwawe/ stuck an endoscope down each cylinder, as well as a compression tester ... I'll have to keep an eye on it to make certain it doesn't become a bigger issue over time, but after a quick run to Hennig in Oberstedten https://www.facebook.com/gunnar.miller/posts/10157662509228176 for a new set of spark plugs, it ran just fine again.  The hand starter crank came in handy to slowly rotate the crankshaft and inspect the piston heads and cylinders in slow-motion.

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Reply #94 - Aug 23, 2020 - 10:57
Then the real work commenced.  Our neighbors were kind enough to lend us their grease  pit, and we pulled all the drain plugs and completely evacuated the front and rear differentials, transfer box, swivel pin housings, gearbox, overdrive, and engine.  It was pretty ugly ... the swivel pin reservoirs were dry, and we suspect the other hypoid gear oil https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spiral_bevel_gear hadn't been changed in years.  We then filled everything back up (after improvising some tools to remove and re-insert the various plugs).  Herr Fasold https://www.miwawe.de had a really neat pump rig for the hypoid gear oil, and in the meantime my son not only cleaned the leaf springs and applied some fin grease https://interflon.com/products/interflon-fin-grease-aerosol , but on the neighbor's tip applied some de-rusting compound to the leaf spring hanger bolts and nuts.  We then greased the propeller shafts, and were good to go https://drive.google.com/file/d/1fePa-oHx5WDHAkQUtfxx31udZYiruMnn/view?usp=drivesdk .  We used GL5 SAE 80W-90 hypoid  gear  oil https://www.amazon.co.uk/Liqui-Moly-4406-Hypoid-80W-90/dp/B00N5ZR1OA  for  the  swivel pin  housings  (0.6  liters  each  side),  rear  and  front  differentials  (1.7  liters  each),  and  transfer  box  (2.6  liters).   Used GL4  SAE  80W  https://www.amazon.co.uk/Liqui-Moly-1401-GL4-Transmission/dp/B004FPQYW4/ref=sr_1_fkmr2_2 for  the  gearbox  (1.4  liters)  and  overdrive  (0.4 liters);  GL5  would  attack  the  brass elements.  Using  a  pump  and  hose  for  the  hypoid  oil  made life  easier, and the grease pit was a huge help.  I did a  lot  of  exhaustive  research,  and  determined  that  squirting  grease  into  the  swivel  pin  housings  was  highly  contraindicated.   Engine oil is 20W 50, and we used a special classic car formulation https://www.amazon.co.uk/Liqui-Moly-Classic-1129-Engine/dp/B00518NJJU N.b. Amazon.co.uk  links  just  for English-language   illustration  ...  those  prices  are  a  joke.

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Re: What did you do in your Land Rover today?
Reply #95 - Aug 23, 2020 - 11:04
Back in the garage, I learned that the anti-freeze we use for my kids' Jeep works just fine https://www.amazon.co.uk/Antifreeze-Concentrate-1-5-L-C11/dp/B012L9U12O , and only needs to be topped-up to flow down the cooling fins as needed.  I also learned that the period battery only needs a top-up with distilled water every so often.  The pesky issue with the exhaust manifold gasket blowing out appears to be a combination of the inadequate Britpart copper/compound gasket https://www.johncraddockltd.co.uk/213358-exhaust-flange-gasket-all-landrover-up-to-1984.html and worn-out nuts.  I had a few we could use in a pinch in my junk box, and will order a new 5/16" BSF set from England  https://www.johncraddockltd.co.uk/2828-nut-516-bsf.html .  The neighbor offered to fabricate a robust aluminum version of the gasket itself instead of the ones I've had to repeatedly replace.

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Reply #96 - Aug 23, 2020 - 11:36
 On topic:  I admired my Land Rovers today..as I do most days ...and may even drive out for a walk further afield later on. (we're between storms up here -chapter 2 on Tuesday coming.) .

For info : The early Land Rovers diffs are all spiral bevel in profile not Hypoid so the extra level of lube within Hypoid oils is unnecessary. Any standard SAE 90 oil will do this job OK.  It is worth knowing that Modern GL 5 oils do no longer attack brass elements. They used to, and classic car owners made a big fuss about it .. then the formula was altered to ensure the oil could not "eat brass" and the owners should not complain about it anymore..though many who never noticed this - mistakenly- still do.... :thud:

The discussion about use of formula one-shot grease in LR swivel housings is ongoing...as it has been for decades.  Because the oneshot grease was specially developed to be suitable for full time 4x4 systems, It clings to wear surfaces and does not leak out so fast. (I have FWH fitted ..I know which I prefer...(.for long life and prosperity  :tic: ) .
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Reply #97 - Aug 23, 2020 - 12:25

 On topic:  I admired my Land Rovers today..as I do most days ...and may even drive out for a walk further afield later on. (we're between storms up here -chapter 2 on Tuesday coming.) .

For info : The early Land Rovers diffs are all spiral bevel in profile not Hypoid so the extra level of lube within Hypoid oils is unnecessary. Any standard SAE 90 oil will do this job OK.  It is worth knowing that Modern GL 5 oils do no longer attack brass elements. They used to, and classic car owners made a big fuss about it .. then the formula was altered to ensure the oil could not "eat brass" and the owners should not complain about it anymore..though many who never noticed this - mistakenly- still do.... :thud:

The discussion about use of formula one-shot grease in LR swivel housings is ongoing...as it has been for decades.  Because the oneshot grease was specially developed to be suitable for full time 4x4 systems, It clings to wear surfaces and does not leak out so fast. (I have FWH fitted ..I know which I prefer...(.for long life and prosperity  :tic: ) .

Very useful feedback, thanks :-)  I added these addenda to an earlier post in this thread saying I was going to change the fluids, so apologies if I put this in the wrong place. 

I was under the impression that hypoid was a variant of spiral bevel https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spiral_bevel_gear , and most of the research I did (here's an example https://www.dingocroft.co.uk/acatalog/Rec_lubes_Ser.htm) recommended hypoid GL5 80W-90 for at least the differentials (under heavy stress).  For the gearbox and overdrive (under moderate stress), it was my impression that GL5 would be sub-optimal relative to GL4, not only because of the brass components (which you helpfully point out is no longer a concern), but also because it works better with synchromesh transmissions  [https://www.widman.biz/uploads/Transaxle_oil.pdfhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gear_oiland https://www.oilspecifications.org/api_gos.php and https://www.penriteoil.com.au/knowledge-centre/Gear%20Oil%20Industry%20Specifications/83/what-is-the-difference-between-api-gl-4-and-api-gl-5-gear-oils/1036
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When we pulled the plugs on the swivel pin housings, the reservoirs were bone dry.  The balls were still nicely lubricated, but there was no evidence that grease had ever been pumped in.  We actually had a recalcitrant left-hand drain plug, and before I finally figured out way to use a round socket with a pipe extension for leverage and extract it, I ran to my computer to see if pumping in grease would be okay in case we couldn't get it to budge.  I took me down a rabbit hole or contradictory opinions. 
I started to feel as though differences on the swivel pin housings in particular and oil specs in general are akin to religious differences ;-)

I have cardboard and a plastic drip pan in the usual parking spot in my garage, but I purposely parked it in another spot with some newspaper under everything overnight.  I must say that even after changing all the lubricants with re-tightened drain plugs, there wasn't a single drop.  I took it for a spin this morning, and the steering was noticeably better.

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Re: What did you do in your Land Rover today?
Reply #98 - Aug 23, 2020 - 16:11
I hypoid bevel is a variant of the spiral bevel  , but  spiral bevel with the pinion axis coincidental with the crown wheel axis, (ie Series Land Rovers) there is no sliding of the teeth .  Hypoid gears slide,  which is the reason of the special nature of Hypoid gear oils.
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Reply #99 - Aug 23, 2020 - 16:20
  and may even drive out for a walk further afield later on....
We did .... Not far from here..but I challenge anyone to find this spot on Google road maps. :cool:

 Coming the other way were a convoy of people in 3 over-equipped Defenders towing trailers- one a specialist camping trailer - and with brightly coloured floaty things to challenge the coastguard with, on their roof racks . Clearly they had taken a wrong turn on the road towards  Uluru. :tic: . They were as surprised as we were....but then.... they probably think we were on holiday too,  not less than 1400 yards from our front door  :angel: 

 

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