Next candidate for purchase

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Offline GunnarTM

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Re: Next candidate for purchase
Reply #1 - Jan 15, 2022 - 21:23
A quick search of the LRSOC's military vehicle listings and the UK license plate lookup show everything's on the up-and-up.  The Heritage Certificate is also a plus. N.b. it's up for £22,000 on another site with 167(!) photos https://collectingcars.com/for-sale/1949-land-rover-series-1-1 , the seller has a Facebook page with even more photos and info (the truck's name is "Phillip") https://www.facebook.com/BaronDefenders/ , and also that the selling owner's had it for less than a year (April 2021) ... he documented his ownership (including getting it running, making modifications and repairs) pretty thorougly https://www.facebook.com/BaronDefenders/posts/900688133843792 . He also owns '58 Series 2 88" NUD187, which I watched nominated for "Best Restored Vehicle" at the Bicester Land Rover Legends meet in May 2019 (my photo of it attached below).

The 2017 Circuit des Ardennes story appears to be a colo(u)rful one indeed https://picclick.co.uk/Land-Rover-Series-1-1949-Ring-184732005163.html .

YWG802 has a non-original engine, but that's common in trucks of this era.  I think it all comes down to how much work you want to put into it over in the States where parts and advice are harder to come by.  The ad for this restored '49 for £42,500 says circa £25,000 was put into it https://www.carandclassic.com/car/C1400959 .

Offline havens51

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Re: Next candidate for purchase
Reply #2 - Jan 16, 2022 - 01:01
Once again, every thing I need to know.  It appears that I have to become better at research from sources across the pond.  I'll have to learn how to use LRSOC's data base.  Thank you for doing my work for me. 
As far as this truck, my concern is that there are no pictures of the door tops in all the photos.  I am in touch with the owner and I have a photo of them leaning agains a wall.  I suspect that there may be a challenge in placing them properly.  I guess I don't want to be the one to try to figure them out.  I know it's not a big deal,
Nice truck, but probably not for me.

Offline Ser1man

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Re: Next candidate for purchase
Reply #3 - Jan 16, 2022 - 01:51
Getting a perfect everything correct early 80” is never going to be easy so it depends on what you are wanting and also your intentions when you get it. Although this vehicle appears to have had some repainting done ( badly), and perhaps some repairs, it does seem to have most of the correct bits, engine aside. It also appears to have an almost complete provenance, which can not be said for some of the shiny restored vehicles. Having restored a few vehicles of various types part of the fun for me is collecting the correct bits over time and slowly getting everything completed. The hardest bit is getting known provenance.

Good luck in your search.


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Offline Keith Robertshaw

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Re: Next candidate for purchase
Reply #4 - Jan 16, 2022 - 11:01
A quick search of the LRSOC's military vehicle listings and the UK license plate lookup show everything's on the up-and-up.  The Heritage Certificate is also a plus. N.b. it's up for £22,000 on another site with 167(!) photos https://collectingcars.com/for-sale/1949-land-rover-series-1-1 , the seller has a Facebook page with even more photos and info (the truck's name is "Phillip") https://www.facebook.com/BaronDefenders/ , and also that the selling owner's had it for less than a year (April 2021) ... he documented his ownership (including getting it running, making modifications and repairs) pretty thorougly https://www.facebook.com/BaronDefenders/posts/900688133843792 . He also owns '58 Series 2 88" NUD187, which I watched nominated for "Best Restored Vehicle" at the Bicester Land Rover Legends meet in May 2019 (my photo of it attached below).

The 2017 Circuit des Ardennes story appears to be a colo(u)rful one indeed https://picclick.co.uk/Land-Rover-Series-1-1949-Ring-184732005163.html .

YWG802 has a non-original engine, but that's common in trucks of this era.  I think it all comes down to how much work you want to put into it over in the States where parts and advice are harder to come by.  The ad for this restored '49 for £42,500 says circa £25,000 was put into it https://www.carandclassic.com/car/C1400959 .

I think the guys a dealer - Baron defenders - although he seems to be masquerading as a private seller on eBay.

Keith

Offline Trakgrip

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Re: Next candidate for purchase
Reply #5 - Jan 16, 2022 - 12:49
I bought some parts from the owner of this vehicle (Baron Defenders) and have seen both it and his SII. It is an extremely interesting and desirable example of an 80" and I have no doubt that the history is genuine. It has, like all well-used vehicles of this type, had things done to it and had parts changed, but it is essentially exactly as it appears. It could be used as is, or could relatively easily be returned to original spec. If I was in the market for an 80" I would definitely be giving this serious consideration.

The owner's SII is also a thing of beauty, fully restored to as new showroom condition (I think by Dunsfold).

Despite his username I do not believe he is a dealer (he is a Defender owner and a member of a well-known Defender forum) and he is also a member of this forum. You could message him directly for more information.
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Offline BaronDefenders

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Re: Next candidate for purchase
Reply #6 - Jan 16, 2022 - 13:21
I thought I would jump in to give my two pennies worth.

Thank you for your addition, Trakgrip.

I am not a dealer, and am indeed a private individual. The name came about as it’s my surname mixed with my love for Defenders, which stretched into Series. I have a full time job and do not have the time to be buying and selling vehicles regularly.

The door tops do fit, and can be fitted. However, I have only used the vehicle in “top off” configuration. Hence they rest up against the wall.

Much of my ownership with YWG has been correcting what the previous owner wrongly fitted to the vehicle, and getting it running reliably.

It went up on Collecting Cars and failed to meet reserve, so it was put onto their Buy Now section and will drop off later today I think. I started to get the impression Collecting Cars were keen to just try and make anything on it, as they recommended I axe the reserve towards the end of the auction. The listed it at £22,000. It is up on eBay for £24,000 which I think is a fair ask, all things considered.

NUD was done by Philip at Dunsfold, and is not going to be for sale at any stage ;)


Charlie
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