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April 13, 2019 - 20:29
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Offline ELRK

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Hallow again from Estonia after 5 years pause of posting to this forum!

I am happy to announce that we have saved two Land Rovers  from the trash metal in Finland - The 80" Series I 1953 Basic Export and 1968 Series 2A 109" 2,25L petrol STW.
 The series 2A  we already brought home on trailer. Luckily it was nearby the road and was'nt to deep in the frozen soil, rear wheel were turning and we managed to lift it up with hi-lift jack and carefully winch to trailer.
 The Series I is still deeply in the frozen ground, so we could only pay the reservation fee and have to wait few weeks for warmer spring wether to melt the ground. Then we can dig it out and see what is the situation with frame and axles and  how to rescue it. We can't even open the bonnet cause there was long metal tube/pipe coming from the frozen ground to the cabin through the windscreen frame.

 Can anyone tell based on chassis number (36134493), is it the early 1953 model?

More pictures: https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=2456761057677191&set=pcb.2719161368099528&type=3&theater&ifg=1
Eesti Land Roveri Klubi (ELRK) / Estonian Land Rover Club
1956/57 88" Fire Engine (restoration in progress)

April 13, 2019 - 20:46
Reply #1

Offline Monkeypin

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  • Location: South Devon, UK
1953 Model Year (built between August 1952 and July 1953)
Land Rover 80" Basic 1997cc 'Siamese' bore - LHD Export
Is sarcasm a very deep sar??

April 13, 2019 - 20:56
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Offline M80

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Not an 'early' 1953 vehicle, rather a late one.


As a rough guide, 36164613 was the last 80" LHD export vehicle, so only 120 units after yours, and before the factory 1954 model year change to 86".


A New Zealand delivered RHD export , 36133940, was dispatched out of build on 20/7/1953.


Good luck with the extraction.
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April 13, 2019 - 21:37
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Offline ELRK

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Not an 'early' 1953 vehicle, rather a late one.
As a rough guide, 36164613 was the last 80" LHD export vehicle, so only 120 units after yours, and before the factory 1954 model year change to 86".
A New Zealand delivered RHD export , 36133940, was dispatched out of build on 20/7/1953.
Good luck with the extraction.

I'm abit confused as they produced on 1953 around 19.000 units (based on https://www.lrfaq.org/FAQ.3.LR_production.html ). How they managed the 4-digit serial number system? Does every body type or destination type had its own counting from zero?

As our chassis number is 36134493 and when taking it apart then itlookslike:
The first digit indicates the year where:
3 = 1953
The second digit indicates the type:
6 = Land Rover
The third digit indicates the model type:
1 = Basic
The fourth digit indicates the destination:
3 = LHD Export
The rest of it is serial number:
4493


 
Eesti Land Roveri Klubi (ELRK) / Estonian Land Rover Club
1956/57 88" Fire Engine (restoration in progress)

April 14, 2019 - 08:29
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Offline autorover1

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Does every body type or destination type had its own counting from zero?
Yes I understand it does , if you look in the Workshop manual each version startes at 0001

April 14, 2019 - 12:05
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Offline TomC

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Yes I understand it does , if you look in the Workshop manual each version startes at 0001



I have always wondered about this and I finally found an answer the other day. I will now have to try and find it again. It wasn't always as straight forward as Derek's answer above. I will try and find the explanation.

April 14, 2019 - 18:22
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Offline GunnarTM

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I'm abit confused as they produced on 1953 around 19.000 units (based on https://www.lrfaq.org/FAQ.3.LR_production.html ). How they managed the 4-digit serial number system? Does every body type or destination type had its own counting from zero?

As our chassis number is 36134493 and when taking it apart then itlookslike:
The first digit indicates the year where:
3 = 1953
The second digit indicates the type:
6 = Land Rover
The third digit indicates the model type:
1 = Basic
The fourth digit indicates the destination:
3 = LHD Export
The rest of it is serial number:
4493

That's an interesting math(s) question I'd never thought about myself (I'm taking care of '53 80" 36102446).  Looking here https://www.lrfaq.org/FAQ.3.Chassis_Numbers.html , there were four third digit possibilities (1 = Basic 2 = Station Wagon 3 = Welder 6 = completely knocked down CKD), and three fourth digit possbilities (0 = Home market, 3 = LHD Export, 6 = RHD Export) .  The possible combinations on the fourth digit alone would be 9,998 * 3 = 29,994. 
'53 Series I 80" 36102446 HGUE53H 409YUE YJH780F 44AA91
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Former owner '62 Series IIa 109"

April 14, 2019 - 19:19
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Offline Johan

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As a reference, 4480 was build the 8th and dispatched out to Belgium 22th.
36134480
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April 14, 2019 - 19:43
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Offline ELRK

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Thank all of you - all this information a great help. Seems that this car is produced in the beginning of July 1953.
 
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1956/57 88" Fire Engine (restoration in progress)

April 30, 2019 - 23:27
Reply #9

Offline ELRK

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 I'm happy to present  how the 80" Basic Export LHD s/n:36134493 was finally saved from scrap metal in Finland and brought to Estonia. (The song behind there in video says "Finally I found you, where have you been hiding so long...")
A 2,5 minutes of video,  but ~1,5 h of hard and careful work to get onto trailer.
The video of rescue operation and pictures as well:
https://www.facebook.com/kristjan.vaarmann/videos/2480310281988935/
https://www.facebook.com/kristjan.vaarmann/videos/pcb.2743946558954342/2480310281988935/?type=3&theater&ifg=1

Today was the first day of cleaning and maintaining the rescued 1953 m.y. S-I 80"
 We got all the trash out of the car, found some original removed parts and some old parts for other cars. On techincal side we got gear- and transfer box  levers moving, luckily found oil from engine and air cleaner, removed wheels and replaced three broken tires with temporary ones. There was no success with front bakes, did'nt succeeded to remove front brake drums, brakes and wheels still blocked. There is only 4 original wheels, so we had to use spare one under the car to replace non-genuine one. We will continue.
https://www.facebook.com/groups/seriesonebrotherhood/?multi_permalinks=2748050955210569&notif_id=1556656098682839&notif_t=feedback_reaction_generic
Eesti Land Roveri Klubi (ELRK) / Estonian Land Rover Club
1956/57 88" Fire Engine (restoration in progress)

May 01, 2019 - 02:34
Reply #10

Offline dkenner

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Excellent work recovering the 80!


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